DC/Marvel

escoban

Neznam za steppa bojim se zbog njegovog armora da ce cudno izgledat,ali darkside je top

Shooter

Meni je i dalje nevjerojatno koliko je ovo vizualno jače od 2017 verzije.

Ali ono zašto? Zašto bi namjerno tako sroza film?

wooddiebone

Ja bi ipak volio da se tu i tamo vidi nebo.

escoban

Bas me zanima jel Flash i u snydera totalni retard

escoban

Ajme

Shooter

https://www.cnet.com/news/zack-snyders-justice-league-leaked-early-on-hbo-max/

HBO uspija leakat pola filma. Par kratkih leakanih clipova šta sam vidija...auf. Ne na dobar način.

escoban

Shooter u vezi cega ?CGI? Mene nezanima kako izgleda jer ovo nije film koji je dobio paznju kao sta je triba,samo me zanima jesu prica i likovi bolje izvedeni nego u kinoverziji! A opet ono sta sam vidio u trailerima sta se tice CGIa izgleda bolje od kino verzije, a ljudi ce definitivno butcherat film sa recenzijama u to nesumnjam !

Shooter

CGI je jedan od problema, bar u ovom šta sam vidija. Ali režija i fizika u nekim momentima su ajme. Plus akcije jednog like će već vidim bit problematične. Plus dizajn jednog lika.

Nadam se da je neko namjerno izdvojia ono najgore i da je to to, jer ovo ne ide na dobro ovako.

escoban

Kao sta sam reka izgled je nebitan,nije to ono sta smo tribali dobit !

Shooter

Viruj mi tehnička strana je najmanji problem.

wooddiebone

Ne vjerujem da može bit lošine od prve verzije, ali vjerujem da može bit loše.

Man of Steel i BvS smo dobili baš onakve kakvi su zamišljeni pa su opet drlog.

Shooter

wooddiebone Man of Steel i BvS smo dobili baš onakve kakvi su zamišljeni pa su fantastični.

FTFY

wooddiebone

Tvoje mišljenje.
Filmovi su drlog.

Shooter

Tvoje mišljenje.
Filmovi su odlični.

wooddiebone

Složimo se na sredini da su filmovi mediokritet.

Shooter

wooddiebone
Neću ali hvala na ponudi.

escoban mogu svaki negativni review rastavit na proste djelove nesto ala za TLOU2 jednostavno nije ono sta smo ocekuvali a opet je cudo

Zanimljivo da to kažeš, i ja često stavljam ta dva naslova u isti koš. Po očekivanjima, kvaliteti, kontroverzi, sličnim temama koje obrađuju i pljuvanju po Martha/zadnjoj Abby sceni.

escoban

Filmovi su u top5 svega sta je izaslo u DCEU i MCU , pogotovo BVS sve bolji i bolji jednostavno nesvacen film koji neide po comicbook movie blueprintu i mogu svaki negativni review rastavit na proste djelove nesto ala za TLOU2 jednostavno nije ono sta smo ocekuvali a opet je cudo . Ljudi nisu sposobni odvojit kvalitetu od nezadovlojstva jer nisu dobili ono sta su tili

wooddiebone

Ok. Da odmah naglasim, sve kaj pričam je samo moje poprilično educirano mišljenje.

BvS nije neshvaćen.
Film ima tolko primitivnu i jednostavnu poruku da ne znam kolko bi trebao bit blesav da ne skužim taj film.

Ne znam. Mogu s vrha pameti sad nabrojat hrpu razloga zakaj Snyderovi DCEU filmovi ne valjaju, i već jesam, a nisam vidio niti jedan slučaj da neko argumentirano napiše nešto dobro o tim filmovima.

Shooter

wooddiebone a nisam vidio niti jedan slučaj da neko argumentirano napiše nešto dobro o tim filmovima.

Evo ti moja detaljna analiza IMDB-a otprije nekoliko godina kad već oćeš. Danas bi dosta toga bolje i kompletnije sročija da imam volje opet toliko pisat, pogodovo jer sam otad skužija još stvari u filmu koje su mi tada promicale.

The movie opens with the murder of the Waynes/Bruce falling into a cave of bats. We may have seen those events before, but never so visually stunning in my opinion and the music only makes it more powerful. We see bats rising young Bruce towards the light, but it's only a dream. "A beautiful lie." In reality, he's still in surrounded by darkness, until the end of the movie. But more on that later.

The next scene shows us the battle of Metropolis from Bruce's perspective. This is when his resentment toward Superman is born. He sees Superman and Zod throwing each other into buildings, resulting in loss of many civilian lives, including Bruce's employees. He talks to a man he knows by name on the phone just before he dies, sees another one crippled and holds a girl that just lost her mother to the battle of these aliens. In Bruce's eyes, Superman is at least partially responsible for all that death and destruction. The fact that there was nothing Bruce could do against such powerful aliens only adds to his misery and makes him even angrier. As Alfred puts it: "That's how it starts. The fever, the rage. The feeling of powerlessness that turns good man cruel."

Fast-forward 18 months. Lois goes to Africa to interview some warlord, problems arise and Superman flews in to rescue her. Lex Luthor has mercenaries in place that kill warlord's men and burn the bodies, making it look like Superman killed them. Later, Lex even bribes and threatens a witness into lying about Superman's involvement. This has the world start questioning Superman and whether he should be allowed to act on his own. It also reinforces Bruce's belief that Superman could indeed be a loose cannon and a threat to the humanity's future. This storyline was probably the most butchered part in the theatrical version.

Batman's first appearance in the movie is amazing. Batman is supposed to be scary and intimidating, the reason criminals are afraid the go out at night. At while we've him use that fear as a weapon before in live-action(his first appearance in Batman Begins, for instance), here he's scarier than he ever was. The entire scene looked like something out of a horror movie.

He's investigating White Portugese, a man who's allegently bringing a dirty bomb in Gotham. We get an easter egg when Alfred comments that White Portugese may not even be a man, or may not exist at all for that matter, a phantasm. A clear reference to Mask of the Phantasm animated movie. Alfred also comments on Batman's new rules - branding the criminals. It is never explained why he does it. Perhaps simply to make them suffer. Maybe it's a reminder of what they did and what happened to them because of it. What will happen if they do it again. Or maybe he does it for future reference, so if he bumps into them again he'll know they are repeat offenders. I myself think it's the second reason.

The first time we see Lex he already has his eyes on kryptonite. He tells a story of his father living in East Germany, having to march every other Saturday for tyrants. He tries to get an import licence for the kryptonite from senators, calling it a deterrent in case Superman goes rogue, so that, as he says, their children don't one day end up doing the marching. This is possibly one of Lex's motivations in the movie: fear of Superman. It could also be just his way of manipulating the senators. Soon he gets access to the kryptonian ship and Zod's body that he'll later use against Superman.

We see Wallace Keefe, Bruce's ex employee who lost his legs during the Metropolis battle, paint "false God" on Superman's statue, getting Lex's attention and deeping Clark's doubts about himself.

Clark goes to Gotham to interrogate Lex's witness that lied about Superman's activity in Africa. He doesn't find her, but his investigation gets a detour when he finds out that Gotham is in fear of a ruthless vigilante Batman. This is when Clark starts looking into the Dark Knight's activities. Meanwhile, Lois is trying to track down the origin of a bullet she recovered back in Africa.

Senator Finch denies Lex's request for the import license. She says: "Take a bucket of piss and call it Granny's Peach Tea; take a weapon of assassination and call it deterrence. You won't fool a fly or me. I'm not gonna drink it." That line will be important later in the movie. In this scene Lex also comments on a picture on the wall with demons rising from hell, claiming that we the picture should be turned upside down, since we now know that devils don't come from beneath us, that they come from the sky. It gives us more insight into Lex's view of Superman.

Bruce has a dream. He's standing in front of his mother's (Martha Wayne) tombstone and a black liquid starts to pour from it. As he examinates it, a demon-like creature (or humanized bat) jumps out and attacks him. I think this probably symbolizes that his parents' death, his inner demons, still haunt him.

Clark and Bruce are both invited to Lex's charity event. Just before the party there is a short scene where Bruce is staring at his empty Batsuit (which by the way looks like a demon smiling, not sure if that's supposed to have some meaning) and turning towards Robin suit with Joker's writing on it, telling us that Robin is already dead. A simple, yet important scene that shows us what Bruce has already been through, another reason why he's so dark and violent in this movie.

A lot happens during the charity event. Lex's speech reveals another reason he hates Superman - jealousy. He talks about how having knowledge without power is paradoxical and he's clearly furious about it since he loses it a bit towards the end of the speech. Who has power? Superman. He can't stand Superman having that power instead of him. Which is nothing really new for the character, since Lex has always been jealous of Superman.

Earlier in the movie, Bruce's investigation into White Portugese led him to Luthor. During the charity event, he places a bug on Lex's computer, which a mystery woman (Diana Prince = Wonder Woman) steals. Using his superhearing, Clark overhears Bruce talking to Alfred about the bug. Clark starts nosing around and engages in conversation with Bruce about Batman. Considering Bruce's simultaneously defensive and passive-agggressive attitude, I believe this is when Clark first realizes that Bruce is in fact Batman. Or at least suspects it.

Clark leaves the event to save a woman from a burning building, which is happening during the Day of the dead. Here begins a montage that's arguably the best scene in the movie. It's a brilliant mix of symbolisms, well-written dialogue, amazing visuals and music. As Superman is bringing the woman to safety, he's smiling, then all the people with the skull make-up (or masks, not sure what it was) start reaching out to him and Superman's face becomes gloom, his eyes turning to the burning building. I believe those people are supposed to represent all the dead he failed to save, and at the same time he's feeling burdened by the fact they're looking at him as a God figure.

During this montage, we see various talk shows and people discussing Superman's role. Is he a messiah? A devil? Just a guy trying to do the right thing? Should he act unilaterally? Are there moral or political constraints on him? And Clark is watching all of this, not sure what to think of it. And what does he do? He calls his mother, hoping to find an answer. A perfect way to show his humanity. Words simply can't do this scene justice.

Clark finds out Batman's brand means death sentence, since the criminals with it all get killed in prison. From Clark's point of view, Batman's acting like judge, jury and executioner, but it's actually Lex who has the branded prisoners killed in order to antagonize Batman in Superman's eyes. He's also the one gettting Keefe to show up on a hearing about Superman. The UE really shows Lex as a puppet master, plotting several schemes simultaneously, exploiting Clark's and Bruce's feelings and ideologies to turn them against each other.

There's another scene with Bruce and Diana. Not much is revealed about her, expect that Lex has a picture that belongs to her. She returns the data from Lex's house to Bruce since she can't decrypt it on her own. And there's another potential easter egg here, when Bruce says to her: "You don't know me, but I've known a few women like you" which could be a reference to either Selina Kyle or Talia al Ghul. Or both of them.

Bruce has a nightmare/vision. He's in what looks like a post-apocalypse, being betrayed by his own men and captured by Superman's men and parademons. Then Superman shows up, kills two prisoners. He takes of Batman's cowl, says "She was my world" and proceeds to kill Batman too. Bruce wakes up and Flash shows up from the future to warn him about Superman, claiming that Bruce has always been right about him and that Lois is the key. Bruce wakes up again. This dream or vision is not explained in the movie, that's almost certainly being left for the Justice League and I really like the fact they kept some questions unanswered. But for now, this scene serves as another insight into Bruce and his fear of Superman.

The decryption of Lex's data is complete and it reveals that White Portugese is a ship. Bruce reveals to Alfred that it's not really carrying a dirty bomb, it's carrying a kryptonite. And he intends to use it to kill Superman, saying that "He has the power to wipe out the entire human race, and if we believe there's even a 1% chance that he is our enemy we have to take it as an absolute certainty." After Metropolis and Africa, Bruce came to believe that Superman doesn't care too much about human lives. What if his indifference turns into actual hatred for humanity? If it were anyone else, that might not mean much, but Superman? He could be the end of mankind. Consider the gravity of the consequences, the risk is just too great in Bruce's eyes, even if there's just 1% chance of that actually happening. And he's already an older man. If Superman goes evil in the future, Bruce may no longer be capable or even alive to stop him. No, the time to act is now, before it's too late.

But Alfred confonts him, claiming that Superman is not the enemy, to which Bruce responds with: "Not today. Twenty years in Gotham, Alfred; we've seen what promises are worth. How many good guys are left? How many stayed that way?" This line probably hints at Red Hood or Two-Face. More importantly, it tells us Bruce has seen too many good people turn bad (even he is not who he used to be) which explains why he's so paranoid and distrustful of Superman.

Clark continues to investigate Batman and has an encounter with a girlfriend and young son of the latest branded criminal that's been killed behind the bars. The woman says words don’t stop Batman, only action - something Superman finds to be true later when he confronts Batman.

Batman finds the White Portugese and starts chasing Lex's men through the streets, to obtain the kryptonite. This is the first time we see him kill, showing how extreme and dark he has become. In the middle of the chase, the Batmobile is stopped by Superman who warns Batman his days as a vigilante are over. Batman responds with a threat. It's a short encounter but it's enough to make animosity between the two keep growing, since Superman tries to prevent Batman from fighting crime, and Batman displays his aggressive nature. And if Superman didn't know who Batman is by now, his x-ray vision would almost certainly allow him to see it now.

Superman visits his mother. She says an important and generally true line: "People hate what they don't understand." And they don't fully know or understand Superman. The same could be applied to this movie, actually. And she adds "Be their hero, Clark. Be their angel, be their monument, be anything they need you to be... or be none of it. You don't owe this world a thing. You never did". Just because he has these extraordinary abilites, it doesn't mean he's obligated to use them and devote his entire life to helping others and acting as a savior. At least not as far as she is concerned.

The witness that gave a false testimony against Superman fears for her life, seeks protection from the government (senator Finch) and admits she lied. Lois finds out what happened in Africa was a set up and that the bullet she's been looking into comes from Lex Corp.Superman has been asked to join his hearing and face people he's hurt (Keefe) and he decides to show up. Bruce is watching the whole thing on TV, sees Keefe, looks into him and finds out he's been returning his checks, blaming Bruce too for for happened to him. The hearing starts and Finch notices a jar on her desk, with words Granny's Peach Tea on it (a callback to the conversation in Lex's office). This distracts her, she notices Lex's seat is empty and suddently a bomb hidden in Keefe's wheelchair explodes and blows up the Capitol building.

It's a very well made and intense scene, also an event that pushes both Bruce and Clark over the edge. Bruce already feels guilty for not doing more to keep up with his former employee, being unaware of the man’s living situation and the messages sent each month, and now that man died before his eyes, just as he finds "you let your family die" note from him (another thing orchestrated by Lex). Naturally, this only adds fuel to his misdirected anger toward Superman. It's the final straw that makes him decide he really has to go through with killing Superman, to make him pay for everything he's caused and to stop him from doing more damage.

As for Clark, he's already been questioning his purpose and if he's doing the right thing. Having his hearing turn into another bloodbath, seeing all those dead bodies...it's too much for him. A little later, he says: "I'm afraid I didn't see it (the bomb) because I wasn't looking." Everything that the news have been saying, questions about his involvement in the incident that they have been asking, all of it takes its toll on him. "All this time I've been living my life the way my father saw it. Righting wrongs for a ghost, thinking I'm here to do good. Superman was never real." Lois reminds him that the shield on his chest means hope, and he says that it did on his world, but that doesn't exist any more. Another line that is revisited later in the movie.

Superman disappears which only has the public asking more questions, blaming him for the Capitol incident, wondering why someone as powerful as him couldn't stop a bomb only a few feet from him, unless he was somehow involved. We see them burning a Superman doll, showing how more and more people are turning
against him.

Batman steals the kryptonite from Lex. Lois searches Keefe's apartment and comes to the conclusion he wasn't intending to die that day, meaning the bomb was placed there by someone else. Also discoveres that the inside of his wheelchair was lined with lead, explaining why Superman wasn't able to see the bomb.

Clark goes to the mountains to distance himself from all the chaos and have his mind cleared. He has a conversation with his dead father (Jonathan), which I took as him remembering a story dad once told him and recreating it his mind. The story is basically about how sometimes you may think you're doing the right thing but you may still end up unintentionally hurting someone. Everybody makes mistakes, but it's easier to live with them if you have the right person by your side. For pa Kent, it was Martha. "She was my world," he says. For Clark, it's Lois. And after that, he decides to return to her. At least that's how I interpreted the scene.

Bruce and Alfred have a conversation in Waynes' mausoleum. We see another reason why Bruce is so jaded and dark, and that's the fact that all his years of fighting crime and all the sacrifices he has made amounted to nothing. Gotham is still infested with crime and no matter how many criminals he takes down, new ones will always keep coming. That's one more reason he's so desperate to stop Superman, to make an actual difference before he dies.

Batman turns on his bat signal. Martha and Lois are kidnapped by Lex's men. Lex throws Lois off the roof of the LexCorp building to get Superman's attention and Superman does show up to save Lois and confronts Lex who reveals that he knows Superman's identity, that he's the one behind many events in the movie. And that he has Martha, whose life depends on Superman killing Batman.

Now this conversation between Lex and Superman on the roof is one of the best scenes in the movie IMO. We discover more about Lex's relationship with his father who abused him as a child, which answers why Lex is such a psychotic and basically damaged individual. And he is angry at God for not helping him, that's why he says "if God is all-powerful, he cannot be all-good." And the other way around. And here is this godlike alien who claims to be good, and Lex can't accept that. He believes Superman to be a fraud and he wants to expose him. By forcing him to choose between letting Martha die or killing Batman, he aims to prove that he's just a man too. Either not all-powerful or not all-good.

Just before the battle, Superman tells Lois he will have to either get Batman to help him, or kill him. We also get a look at what Diana is doing at this time. She receives an e-mail from Bruce Wayne, containing data from Lex's computer. It's a picture of her from what seems to be early 20th century and videos of other meta-humans (Flash, Cyborg, Aquaman). Now I'm not a big fan of post-credits scenes, but I think this one would probably fit better there. And every meta-human's file has their logo on it, which I found a little silly to be honest. It's just a minor gripe on my part, but still.

Superman confronts Batman. He tries to talk to him, despite the fact that he saw during his investigation in Gotham that Batman wasn't a man who could be stopped with words. He saw that as Clark. He saw it as Superman during the Batmobile chase when he warned Batman to retire. He perceived Batman as a merciless, unyielding man and a killer, not much better than the criminals he hunts. And yet he still tries talking to him, but Batman just keeps reinforcing Superman's perception of him with his aggresive approach and complete disinterest in what Superman has to say. His hatred and desire to bring Superman down are palpable. And someone who hates you and wants nothing more than to destroy you isn't likely to care or believe anything you have to say. Not until you force him to listen, until you show him how easily you could end him if you wanted to. But instead you show him mercy, and actually ask him for help. That's how I see Clark's line of thought in that scene. But his plan backfires when it turns out Batman has kryptonite.

They fight and Batman gets the upper hand. Superman ends up on the floor, Batman's foot on his throat. Batman has a kryptonite spear in his hand and he's just about to kill Superman, but Superman manages to utter "You're letting them kill Martha". It confuses and shocks Batman, and after Lois shows up, explaining Martha is Clark's mother and pleading for his life, the realization of what’s really being said shifts Batman's perceptions to the point he now sees himself clearly for the first time in years. He has something of a flashback and sees his younger self in Superman. He realizes he has became the bad guy himself, a bully like the man who killed his parents was. And he isn't about to let another mother, another Martha die. This time he's gonna do what he couldn't as a child - save her. The name was merely an emotional, symbolic catalyst he needed to see through the rage and fear that consumed him.

Martha still needs saving, and at the same time they find that Lex is up to something in the kryptonian ship. Even though some of Batman's doubts about Superman probably still remain, he realizes he's gone too far by attempting to kill him, and the circumstances force them to join forces and work together for the time being.

Batman saves Martha, providing us with what's probably his best fight scene ever seen in live-action. Meanwhile, Superman reveals what Lex has been doing with Zod's body - mixing his DNA with is own in order to create Doomsday, a backup plan in case Batman fails to kill Superman. As soon as Doomsday is born he tries to punch Lex with his fist, but Superman stops him. A believe this is meant to be a callback to what Lex said earlier in the movie: "No man in the sky intervened when I was a boy to deliver me from Daddy's fist and abominations." By saving the life of a man who brought him so much misery, Superman shows how wrong Lex is about him.

Superman battles Doomsday and tries to fly him into outer space. As soon as they leave the atmosphere, the government launches a nuclear missile. After the blast, Doomsday crashes back on Earth, while Superman remains in space, slowly recovering. Now I understand they wanted to pay another tribute to Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns, and I suppose I can see why the government would be eager to eliminate such a threat as soon as possible, considering what happened in Metropolis less than two years before. But I still think this part should've been left out, especially because of the Superman's sacrifice that happens not longer after that. We see him "die" two times in 10 minutes, and the fact that we've just seen him recover from a nuclear explosion slightly diminishes the severity of his sacrifice. It's nothing that ruins the overall experience, but for me it does bring the movie's rating down by 1.

I feel sort of the same way about another scene. When Superman and Batman stopped fighting, Lois took the kryptonite spear and threw it in the water. Little later, when she sees Doomsday and concludes that's what Lex has been doing in the kryptonian ship, she jumps back in the water and nearly drowns when Doomsday's shockwave drops half of the building on her. Now, I can definitely understand her actions, but I still can't help but feel that movie could've easily gone without that. But I don't mind it as much as I do the previously described scene.

While Superman is recovering in space, Batman is trying to lure Doomsday to uninhabited port where the spear is. His Batwing crashes and Doomsday tries to finish him with his heat vision, but Wonder Woman jumps in to save the day. Superman returns and the Trinity fights Doomsday. More precisley, Wonder Woman and Superman fight it, while Batman can only watch this visually impressive battle of superpowered beings and wait for the right moment to fire his last kryptonite gas grenade.

Superman hears Lois drowning and goes to save her and retrieve the spear. Wonder Woman is restraining Doomsday with her lasso and Batman is waiting to do his part. Superman sees what he has to do, turns to Lois and says: "This is my world...you are my world." Without context, this comes off as cheesy, but it has its meaning. Facing death, Superman finally learns what it truly means to be human and he no longer refers to Krypton as his world, but Earth. It's also a callback to several earlier dialogues (with Lois, his father, and the one in Knightmare). And Lois was the one who helped him cope with all the negativity, the one who made it all worth it, like Martha was for Jonathan. His world.

Superman picks up the spear and flies into Doomsday, while Wonder Woman is holding him with the lasso and Batman is shoots the kryptonite gas grenade. Seeing the Trinity work together to defeat Doomsday is epic, but it results in both Doomsday and Superman dying. I didn't find his sacrifice to be emotional the first time I watched it, but I did after the UE, and amazing music that plays during that scene definitely makes it a lot more powerful. As Batman lowers Superman's body and hands him over to Lois and Diana, there is even a cross in the background, a clear Jesus symbolism.

We see Lex in the ship wreckage, in front of him Steppenwolf and three Mother Boxes. Without going too much in depth about this, Steppenwolf is supervillain from the comics and the Mother boxes are basically supercomputers that possess certain powers. Lex is arrested and we see him in prison being shaved bald, thus getting a more traditional Lex Luthor appearance.

There are several truly beautiful shots of empty streets of Metropolis and Smallville. Martha gives Lois an engagement ring Clark sent to Smallville so that Lois doesn't accidentally find it. There are two funerals being held. One in Metropolis for Superman, and one in Smallvile for Clark. The coffin in Metropolis is empty, but as Diana says, they don't know how else to honor him except as a soldier. Both funerals are shot beautifully and accompanied by Amazing Grace. Wonderful scene.

Bruce asks Diana to help him find other meta-humans. He talks about how he he failed Superman in life, but won't fail him in death. How men are still good and have to stand together. It was Superman's sacrifice that showed Bruce there is still good in the world and restored his faith in humanity. We see people in Metropolis gather around Superman's monument, holding candles. On the monument it says: "If you seek his monument, look around you." I really loved that.

Batman confronts Lex in his prison cell. Lex reveals to Batman that he knows his secret identity. And I love the way he does it. "This is how it all caves in, civilization on the wane, manners out the window." Really clever. He also reveals he's been declared clinically insane, avoiding prison. I think Lex's eccentric nature helped him with that, and he might start acting more normal in the future movies so they release him. So we might end up seeing a more familiar version of Lex Luthor. But Batman doesn't let him get off that lightly by being placed in some nice mental institution, so he arranges for him to get a transfer to Arkham, and Lex's reaction to that is just priceless. Lex then says that it doesn't matter, that the bell has already been rung and "they" have heard it. He's almost certainly referring to Steppenwolf and Darkseid. Something he did in the kryptonian ship got their attention. Batman has his Bat-brand in his hand but he doesn't use it, again showing us how Superman's sacrifice changed him. He wants to be a better man again.

We see Clark's coffin and just before the credits roll, the dirt on it starts to rise, letting us know he will resurrect. I can see why someone would say that his death was done too early, but it wasn't pointless. Firstly, it returned Batman to the right path. Secondly, it proved everybody else who doubted Superman how wrong they were about him. And his resurrection (another Jesus sybolism) will most probably allow him to be that inspiring hero, a symbol of hope.

The movie isn't without flaws, but it's still masterfully done. I think WB made a serious mistake but not releasing the Ultimate Edition from the beginning, instead they gave an incomplete movie and there were consequences. Also, I think it was bold, but financially unwise move to experiment with the characters, since a lot of people refuse to accept anything that differs from the some classic depiction of the characters. I can certainly understand that people want to see the familiar Batman and Superman, but I personally loved the new take on the characters. It's refreshing.

They explored what would happen to Batman if he had one too many bad days and I liked it. They showed us an older, more vulnerable, flawed, and broken Bruce who's in a really dark place. In a way, a villain for the most of the movie. We also got to see a Superman who actually struggles with his role in a world that is deeply conflicted about him, just like I believe it would be if something like that happened in real life. Definitely the most interesting version of the character for me. Lex gained a whole other dimension with his childhood issues as he too is a damaged person and his personality and motivations are explored really well in my opinion.

They feel like actual human beings, with flaws and everything. But another thing that I believe affected the reception of the movie is that there is a lot of subtext, which is not something most people are used to. And anyone who likes to take things at face value is very likely to misinterpret or completely miss a lot of points made in this movie. No character has a single obvious motivation spoon-fed to the audience. Instead, the reasons behind their actions are contained in almost every scene of the movie. Every event, every symbolism, every reference and line of dialogue. It's everything these versions of the characters are.

And what makes this movie darker and more mature than a lot of other comic book movies isn't the amount of violence or bad language. It's the fact it feels surprisingly real, considering what it's about. All the talks shows and news broadcasts were very convincing and they really helped depict the society's mixed reaction to the existence of a superpowered alien. The movie shows how quickly people can turn against something or someone. How quick we can be to pass judgment. It also explores the implications of absolute power, and shows how low even a good person can go when life hits them hard enough.

It's a movie with several layers and massages, filled with complex yet beautiful character arcs and narratives, but some of them might be too subtle for everyone to pick up., but some of them might be too subtle for everyone to pick up. It was partially like that for me too the first time I watched the movie, because the theatrical cut is so incomplete and poorly edited that just trying to catch up with everything leaves you confused and a lot of stuff ends up going over your head. Fortunately, the ultimate edition and the fact it was my second viewing enabled me to understand the movie a lot better.

I really think it's all done incredibly well. The performances are strong, the atmosphere and the soundtrack are fantastic, and the cinematography is incredibly beautiful. In fact, this is probably the most visually stunning movie I have ever seen.

In the end, I will say that the Ultimate Edition is a solid 8/10 for me and I can already see it's one of those movies that keeps getting better the more I watch it.

escoban

Shooter gledao sam negativne reviewe za film i kazem ti Ja ih mogu rastavit na proste faktore , a kamalo neko ko bi se pozabavio vise sa filmom , isto kao i sa TLOU2 losim reviewima ! Nakraju mos sve svrstat na kme kme kme Batman neubija kme kme superman je pre dark kao sta kazem slicno kao sa TLOU2 kme kme Joel je zasluzio bolje

Brijac

Shooter Neću ali hvala na ponudi.

Wooddie be like:

Brijac

Man of Steel odličan, a BvS isto odličan, no ona druga verzija filma.

escoban

Brijac da kad pricam o BVSu uvik mislim na extended , kino verzija je prosjek i ima puno problema jer joj fali dosta bitni scena

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