Battlefield V

Torla

Pogledao sam dva, po meni krucijalna osvrta na betu...

U prvom LecelCap govori o svim manama igre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jSV3jIcwSw

U drugome govori o podosta promjena na kojima DICE radi do izlaska igre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jSV3jIcwSw

Panacea

viper89

Koja sprdacina od igre. Samo 30 primarya na launchu. Opet nista sadrzaja i opet ce bit ista prica kao BF1 kad izgoris main oruzja.
BF4 je hebote imao 60+ oruzja samo na launchu.

Dodaj na to da su 7 oruzja copy paste iz BF1 i vecinu smo vidjeli u beti ostalo.
A najbolja stvar je ta da jedna WW2 igra nema legendarna oruzja poput M1 Garand, BAR itd

OK nece ni dat poznate bitke, sad nece ni dat poznata oruzja... katastrofa.
Onaj upgrade sustav iz bete ne treba ni spominjat...

Assault Rifles

StG 44 – Considered by many to be the first real assault rifle. It combines a high rate of fire with good accuracy and stopping power.
Sturmgewehr 1-5 – The selective-fire variant of the Gewehr 1-5 semi-automatic rifle.
M1907 SF - Similar to the M1 carbine, only heavier and more powerful.
Semi-Automatic Rifles

Selbstlader 1916 – An early German semi-automatic rifle whose sensitivity to field conditions made it more popular with the German air force than its army. Only 1000 were ever made.
Gewehr 43 – A rifle so sturdy it can be used as a ladder rung if needed.
Gewehr 1-5 – A semi-automatic rifle that used the same detachable magazine as the StG 44.
M1A1 Carbine – Very fast firing Semi Auto with a rather weak bullet. Best used within 50 meters.
Turner SMLE – Fires faster than the Gewehr 43 but has a weaker bullet at range.
Bolt-Action Rifles

Gewehr M95/30 – This rifle’s origins date back to the late 19th century and saw heavy use in World War 1 by the Austro-Hungarian Army.
Krag-Jörgensen - A rifle dating back to the late 19th century, with a special type of integral magazine which loaded from the side rather than the top.
Lee-Enfield No. 4 Mk l - Very fast firing sniper rifle. Its bullet is significantly slower than that of the Kar98k, making it preferable for medium range.
Kar98k - The most common bolt-action rifle in the German army.
Self-Loading Rifles

Model 8 – Created in 1900. US hunters and some police units would use it, but it was never formally adopted by the US Army.
ZH-29 - A hard-hitting self-loading rifle that can kill with only two hits.
RSC - By repurposing parts from the Lebel rifle it was designed to replace, the RSC was cheaper to produce for the French army, though there were complaints that it was unwieldy in the trenches.
Submachine Guns

STEN – The easier to control twin of the MP40.
Suomi KP/-31 – Very hard to control, fast firing SMG. It starts off a bit weak, but benefits more than other SMGs from progression.
EMP – Developed in Germany, this submachine gun proved immensely popular across Europe and Asia.
MP40 – The Allies called this popular submachine gun the "Schmeisser" although well-known weapon designer Hugo Schmeisser was not involved in its creation.
MP28 – After World War 1, Hugo Schmeisser made many improvements to the MP18, such as replacing the drum magazine with a straight one. The resulting MP28 was sold to both China and Japan among others.
MP34 – The MP34's design was based on the old MP18 submachine gun. Used primarily by the German army, it was an extremely well-made gun although the production costs were very high.
M1928A1 – The Chicago gangsters made the "Tommy Gun" famous in the 1920s. The US Army adopted it in 1938 for its accuracy and high rate of fire, and Allied Commando and Ranger units used it extensively.
Light Machine Guns

KE7 - Medium rate of fire LMG. Even though this light machine gun was designed in Switzerland, the Swiss army never used it.
Bren Gun – Based on a Czechoslovak design, with a top-mounted box magazine which gave it a distinct look.
FG-42 - Very fast firing automatic rifle with a small magazine. Highest damage output weapon on the support kit.
Lewis Gun – Entered Allied service in 1914. In World War 2, the British again used it as an anti-aircraft gun. Its barrel shroud and top-mounted pan magazine made it easy to recognize.
Medium Machineguns

MG 34 – The first of a kind: a portable, air-cooled machine gun with a high rate of fire. Too complex to properly mass-produce, it was later supplanted by the MG42.
MG 42 – This machine gun was reliable, easy to use, and had an extreme rate of fire. After its introduction in 1942, it was used on all fronts.
Shotguns

M30 Drilling - A triple barrel combination gun that leaves you more flexible than you would think. Use it as a double barrel shotgun in close quarters or change fire mode to the rifle barrel for medium range shots.
12g Automatic - Served in both world wars. It was the first successful semi-automatic shotgun used by the Allies, eventually inspiring the German army to create their own version.

Panacea

Onaj upgrade sustav iz bete ne treba ni spominjat...

Faster bullets

Kako nema poznatih oružja, imat ćete katane!

Broj oružja je tu negdje za Battlefield, četvorka je zapravo bila odstupanje. Ne smeta me ni izostanak klasika ako nema smisla da ih se ubacuje tj. nema frakcija koja su koristila ta oružja. I to je problem petice što će na launchu imati samo dvije frakcije.

Mene više smeta što su eksplicitno odlučili smjestiti igru na početak rata i busaju se kronološkim pristupom, a onda ubace StG 44 koji će se na kraju najviše koristiti. Promašaj, mogli su kasnije u životnom vijeku igre napraviti pravi mali event oko dobivanja tog oružja kad je to kronološki očekivano i u redu, a na launch staviti nešto drugo.

viper89

ako se korejanka bori za britance u norveskoj onda mogu stavit i M1 Garand xD

njima nije problem frakcija koja koristi oruzje vec koja se frakcija opce borila, britanci u rotterdamu xD

mislim, nista cudno i u BF1 je sve bilo prepuno prototipa oruzja tipa hellriegel kojeg ne mogu naci na svijetu sad jedan komad osim na slikama

19marksman89

Trude se...ali vjerojatno prekasno
http://youtu.be/l3U9GbqiB7Q

StarFox_N

Tako velik, moćan studio s toliko iskustva i nisu sposobni isplanirati igru da bude kako treba nego u zadnji tren uvijek nešto drkaju, popravljaju....
Već vidim. Day one patch 10000000 GB.
Ne razumijem.

19marksman89

Jer slusaju community..rulja zeli nesto,pa im udovolje..pa dode neki drugi bf pa se rulja predomisli...pa onda druga rulja zeli nesto pa i njima udovolje..pa su tu youtuberi sa svojim razmisljanjima i prijedlozima..i tako u krug..

viper89

slusaju K, a ne community. Nitko nije zelio ono sto su prvo napravili.

Ajd da im je prva druga igra pa sad neke drasticne promjene rade. 11. igra u serijalu studio postoji 26 godina.
Toliko smo glasni bili jos od BF1, a BFV je nastavak te ere dizajna i opet ne znaju di udaraju. To sto su napravili da moras trckart po bazama za municiju i health packove nije neka drasticna promjena da je sad BFV bio toliko drugacija igra u startu.
Toliki studio da ne mogu od get-go napravit kako treba, jos i sa njihovom "gamechanger" inicijativom di zovu ljude koji i igraju njihove igre. Sad su se uzjebali u ovim videima feedback but itssss feeeeedback guys i odma su promjenili. Bolje bi im bilo da su odma krenuli sa promjenama nego se drzali high horsea 5 mjeseci sve dok nisu dosle prve analize sa biznis strane i skuzili da se nemres tak glup. Najbolji primjer je evo sad promjena upgrejda - zar moras biti jebeni konj da shvatis da nemres radit samo one step upgrade, bez negativnih strana i sidegrade. Zar ti to treba rec beta? Multimillion studio sa najvecim dizajnerima i kurac napravis? Sad se busaju ko da su otkrili toplu vodu. Bolje nek investiraju u bolju game test infrastrukturu pogotovo kad imaju MP igru, a ne da oni idu mjesec dana prije izlaska slusat feedback igraca jer im se radi negativni PR na netu. Vidi npr God of War - single player igra a prosla takva testiranja na hrpetini testova kroz razvoj da se pogodi svaka gameplay mehanika i zato im rastura igra.

ajd bar im nova Legacy tema zvuci fenomenalno

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2otCTZrcwxE

StarFox_N

Kad god cujem ovu stvar ( koja god verzija bila ) prodju me trnci i izmami mi osmijeh na lice. :)

revo

Jer slusaju community..rulja zeli nesto,pa im udovolje..pa dode neki drugi bf pa se rulja predomisli...pa onda druga rulja zeli nesto pa i njima udovolje..pa su tu youtuberi sa svojim razmisljanjima i prijedlozima..i tako u krug..

Ma joj daj ajde pa znaju oni dobro kak napravit igru koja bi zadovoljila fanove nije to nist za njih komplicirano.
Stvar je u politici koja im je ocito bila kriva pa sad pokusavaju nesto izvuc.

19marksman89

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUPimAwTo3E

weky

Crnci. Žene. Djeca. Arapi.

Nice.

chono7

Ne bi covjek vjerovao, ali toga je bilo prije 80 godina. U drugom SVJETSKOM ratu.

weky

Naravno da je bilo. Objasnio nam CoD lani.

19marksman89

Ne padam na njihove nabrijane trailere u koje je ulozeno vise truda nego u tu cjelu kampanju od 4 i pol sata

viper89

Evo JackFrags ima novi video. Kaze da je kampanja dosadna i losa te da je kao od prije 10 godina. Ne valja im guranje MP sandbox pristupa u kampanju i da nema nikakve povezanosti s likovima. AI je kanta isto.

DICE pls, vidi samo ovo skijanje na pocetku :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtwFf2g8Eug

Solid_Snake

Možda im sp kampanje rade studenti koji su došli na praksu xD

viper89

xD xD xD

vec vidim kako ce 19Marksman89 pljuvat po AI-u

DarkPunisher

DICE postao kanta bas, za ovo skijanje neznam jel bi se smijao ili plakao majke mi

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